newcastleepl
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Post by newcastleepl on Dec 9, 2008 18:57:32 GMT -5
I say Happy Holidays because there is not only Christmas, but also New Years in the same general time, and it's easier than Merry Christmas and Happy New Years. I would point out to anyone who argues with me about "Merry Christmas" being offensive is that there is a purely secular aspect to the holiday that many people celebrate, and as far as promotions and retailing goes, the vast majority of people are buying things for christmas (or food/booze for new years). also, Life is over at 18? ?? Man, you need perspective, life improves so much after high school it's not even funny (ok I'm assuming that if you haven't turned 18 yet you're still in high school, but still...). (enter rant mode) High schools has to be one of the worst, most pathetic time periods in life. For some reason people are just so annoying, stupid, and petty in high school. It really irks me. What's worse is that so much of high school life is idolized and idealized in media and culture.
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Post by General Koibito Cross on Dec 9, 2008 19:27:31 GMT -5
ya it might be easier to say but its more meaningful to say merry christmas and happy new year merry christmas and happy new year newcastleepl lol see?
and no im getting my GED so im not in highschool way i see it, i cant have fun at 18 ill have to worry about a job and responsibility and not about the only thing i care about.. fun
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Post by ThePockyNinja on Dec 9, 2008 19:35:33 GMT -5
"censorship is pointless first of all there are things that we might want to see in an anime" - Censership has it's rights and wrongs, it's there for a good reason most of the time though
"i bet you once naruto shippuden comes to america they'll censor hidan's language screw that i want to hear hidan call chouji a fat ass and pain a pregnant dog and say "you think you can stop us with gay little crows? f**k that crap" - Not everyone is Trey Parker And Matt Stone
"ppl should stop saying "happy holiday's" if ppl of other faiths want to complain they can go somewhere else" - ..You mean like the Warsaw Ghetto's?.. The if you don't believe in what I believe in GTFO, method? Also a majority of people use Christmas as an way to just get gifts for one set time of the year instead of an actual holiday in which to celebrate. Not just some greedy get together to get mad at someone for getting you something that you didn't ask for. And alot of people don't know this but I don't celebrate Christmas - I celebrate Winter solstice, but I still get my friends gifts just because.
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Post by ThePockyNinja on Dec 9, 2008 19:43:42 GMT -5
also, Life is over at 18? ?? Man, you need perspective, life improves so much after high school it's not even funny (ok I'm assuming that if you haven't turned 18 yet you're still in high school, but still...). (enter rant mode) High schools has to be one of the worst, most pathetic time periods in life. For some reason people are just so annoying, stupid, and petty in high school. It really irks me. What's worse is that so much of high school life is idolized and idealized in media and culture. -High school isn't that bad- just people blow it out of the water with "Ooh after this breakup my life will be over for the rest of my life" and people with they're High school drama, just stay away from it and have fun while you can- And yeah life doesn't end til the very end- so live it while you still can.
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Post by General Koibito Cross on Dec 9, 2008 20:53:58 GMT -5
"censorship is pointless first of all there are things that we might want to see in an anime" - Censership has it's rights and wrongs, it's there for a good reason most of the time though "i bet you once naruto shippuden comes to america they'll censor hidan's language screw that i want to hear hidan call chouji a fat ass and pain a pregnant dog and say "you think you can stop us with gay little crows? f**k that crap" - Not everyone is Trey Parker And Matt Stone "ppl should stop saying "happy holiday's" if ppl of other faiths want to complain they can go somewhere else" - ..You mean like the Warsaw Ghetto's?.. The if you don't believe in what I believe in GTFO, method? Also a majority of people use Christmas as an way to just get gifts for one set time of the year instead of an actual holiday in which to celebrate. Not just some greedy get together to get mad at someone for getting you something that you didn't ask for. And alot of people don't know this but I don't celebrate Christmas - I celebrate Winter solstice, but I still get my friends gifts just because. first of all if parents werent so lazy censorship wouldnt be needed second no i mean i want people to not be afraid to say merry christmas happy new yeah happy Hanukkah and wish everyone other faiths instead of being lazy or scared and grouping it all together with "happy holiday" ppl tell me "wishing someone whose jewish merry christmas is like taking their religeon" they really compared wishing someone a happy anything to turning Hanukkah into christmas saying happy holidays is like saying christmas Hanukkah ramadon (sp?) and Kwanzaa are all the same thing why not give them their individuality and wish ppl separate things i celebrate christmas im going to wish everyone a merry christmas if i said it to a jewish person and they said "actually im jewish" i would reply by saying "my apologies happy Hanukkah sir or mam" and give them the right of having an individual holiday instead of saying "nope all religeons are the same happy holidays" third im not saying hidan is trey parker or matt stone im saying hidans original character cusses so much and i believe a character should remain how he or she was originally they shouldnt change a character just because of censorship
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Post by ThePockyNinja on Dec 9, 2008 21:07:58 GMT -5
"censorship is pointless first of all there are things that we might want to see in an anime" - Censership has it's rights and wrongs, it's there for a good reason most of the time though "i bet you once naruto shippuden comes to america they'll censor hidan's language screw that i want to hear hidan call chouji a fat ass and pain a pregnant dog and say "you think you can stop us with gay little crows? f**k that crap" - Not everyone is Trey Parker And Matt Stone "ppl should stop saying "happy holiday's" if ppl of other faiths want to complain they can go somewhere else" - ..You mean like the Warsaw Ghetto's?.. The if you don't believe in what I believe in GTFO, method? Also a majority of people use Christmas as an way to just get gifts for one set time of the year instead of an actual holiday in which to celebrate. Not just some greedy get together to get mad at someone for getting you something that you didn't ask for. And alot of people don't know this but I don't celebrate Christmas - I celebrate Winter solstice, but I still get my friends gifts just because. first of all if parents werent so lazy censorship wouldnt be needed second no i mean i want people to not be afraid to say merry christmas happy new yeah happy Hanukkah and wish everyone other faiths instead of being lazy or scared and grouping it all together with "happy holiday" ppl tell me "wishing someone whose jewish merry christmas is like taking their religeon" they really compared wishing someone a happy anything to turning Hanukkah into christmas saying happy holidays is like saying christmas Hanukkah ramadon (sp?) and Kwanzaa are all the same thing why not give them their individuality and wish ppl separate things i celebrate christmas im going to wish everyone a merry christmas if i said it to a jewish person and they said "actually im jewish" i would reply by saying "my apologies happy Hanukkah sir or mam" and give them the right of having an individual holiday instead of saying "nope all religeons are the same happy holidays" third im not saying hidan is trey parker or matt stone im saying hidans original character cusses so much and i believe a character should remain how he or she was originally they shouldnt change a character just because of censorship Although I do think that some censorship can be outrageous- Some of it actually helps us maintain a good society- If I had a kid I wouldn't want him seeing some of the stuff I've seen And "Happy Holidays" isn't grouping all of the holidays together into one- it's to not hurt anyones feelings- if I go up to someone and say "Happy Kwanzaa" and he says- "Why do I have to celebrate Kwanzaa?" he might be offended because I generalized his holiday from his race- "Happy Holidays" wishs everyone a good time. There's a big difference from what can be shown on the internet and what can be shown on t.v.
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Post by General Koibito Cross on Dec 9, 2008 21:19:59 GMT -5
see you dont do that you wish someone the religeon you celebrate you dont assume someone else celebrates something of course you dont do that u say merry christmas (or w/e your religeon is) and if the person is sensible and nice to others they'll correct you if the celebrate something else then you apologize and say *insert religeon here* i.e happy Hanukkah and such you dont assume someone is of another faith
second ya i dont want my kid seeing some stuff (when or if i have one) but im going to monitor it myself not leave it up to some stupid censorship im going to be a responsible parent
third so r we agreed characters shouldnt be changed from there original form
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Post by Sabi on Dec 9, 2008 21:21:41 GMT -5
see you dont do that you wish someone the religeon you celebrate you dont assume someone else celebrates something of course you dont do that u say merry christmas (or w/e your religeon is) and if the person is sensible and nice to others they'll correct you if the celebrate something else then you apologize and say *insert religeon here* i.e happy Hanukkah and such you dont assume someone is of another faith But...isn't that assuming they celebrate what you do..?
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Post by ThePockyNinja on Dec 9, 2008 21:26:18 GMT -5
see you dont do that you wish someone the religeon you celebrate you dont assume someone else celebrates something of course you dont do that u say merry christmas (or w/e your religeon is) and if the person is sensible and nice to others they'll correct you if the celebrate something else then you apologize and say *insert religeon here* i.e happy Hanukkah and such you dont assume someone is of another faith second ya i dont want my kid seeing some stuff (when or if i have one) but im going to monitor it myself not leave it up to some stupid censorship im going to be a responsible parent third so r we agreed characters shouldnt be changed from there original form Your assuming that they Celebrate Christmas when you say that though :/ Happy Holidays is generalized. And you do realize the Japanese language has no swear words. So really the "original characters" you so call them- are really just what some Americans who probably really hate they're job and wish they were paid more decided to throw in there.
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Post by General Koibito Cross on Dec 9, 2008 21:26:47 GMT -5
not nessesarily thats you just wishing them what your religeon calls for wishing others if someone wished me happy Hanukkah they arent assuming im jewish they are wishing me what their religeon calls for
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Post by ThePockyNinja on Dec 9, 2008 21:35:43 GMT -5
Your religion doesn't decide what you should tell others- That's your decision. If you don't get the fact that others are trying to be nice by not hurting anyone's feeling by now - I just don't know what to say. :/
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Post by General Koibito Cross on Dec 9, 2008 21:40:17 GMT -5
i get it but still im not saying your religeon decides directly what you wish others but it effects the enviornment you grow up in so if ur christian most likely you'll grow up wishing others merry christmas
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Post by ThePockyNinja on Dec 9, 2008 21:45:03 GMT -5
But you say that your mad when you say we're grouping holidays together when in all actuality we're being friendly to everyone.
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Sabi
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Post by Sabi on Dec 9, 2008 21:51:28 GMT -5
Completely offtopic because I'm going to just avoid entering this little debate~
I hate the really rowdy people in my school...I got knocked down the stairs today by some guys that were "pretending" to fight, and they didn't even apologize..they even stepped on me, and that wasn't fun obviously. ;__; ...Then in Biology class two different guys were doing this also, and they ended up making me get hurt also...
The thing about these kinds of incidents that really aggravates me is they all never realize I'm there, somehow..
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Post by General Koibito Cross on Dec 9, 2008 21:55:59 GMT -5
ya im going off the debate im not trying to make others believe what i do just to state my point and ive done that so next subject (if thats ok w/ you thepockyninja)
ya sabi i hate those ppl too
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